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General Questions

Are you saying there is no such thing as mental illness?
Are you saying there is such a thing as mental illness?
I take medication and know I have a mental illness; are you telling me I'm doing something wrong?

Are you saying I have to start taking medication?

Are you saying I should stop taking my medication?

Are you saying all the thing I have experienced are real/are not real?
My loved one went off his meds and I lost him; isn't throwing doubt on  psychiatry just asking for more such losses?

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Reasonable Questions

I work in a mental health service and have trained for years to get here; are you saying everything I learned is wrong?

I work in a mental health service and have a medical degree; what are your qualifications?

Are you saying you know better than thousands of qualified doctors?
I'm a psychiatric registrar, I work all the hours the day has, doing my best in impossible conditions for no recognition; when will you people stop attacking psychiatrists?

 

This is just that ancient discredited 'anti psychiatry' rehashed isn't it?.

Without forced treatment wouldn't lot of people suffer and die?

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Fair Questions

Are you saying our caring and overworked mental health workers are bad people?

The police only take violent patients to hospital don't they?

You ask for counselling, therapy and support; that's what happens in psych hospitals now isn't it?

 

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Pointed Questions

Everyone knows mental patients have to take their medication or they are dangerous; what do you say to that?

So you want people to just go wild in the streets and hurt anyone they like?

You're just another Scientology flunky aren't you?

 

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Hard Questions

The term 'Mental Illness' is oppressive, irrelevant and offensive; how dare you use this oppressor-language to describe me?

Medication is poison, how dare you support it!

Psychiatry is well known to be an industry of death; how dare you talk about having dialogue with people working it -aren't you just a traitor to you comrades who died there?

You are just a flunky of Big Pharma aren't you?

 



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Are you saying there is such a thing as 'mental illness'?

Even when you allow for the changes in diagnoses, cultural bias, erors in diagnosis and the rest, it does seem like there are some human Experiences, common to many of us, which has been described as 'mental illness'. I've met too many people Experiencing Something, and seen too much myself to deny it.

But as to what they are  exactly, and how best approached, I am far less certain; spiritual crises, mental 'circuit breakers', loss of hope, 'Weariness of the Soul', 'Severe Case of LIfe', organic illness.... maybe all of these maybe none.

But we need to find out. Both to help people who need it, and to be sure we are helping, not hurting people. I will say that what I expereinced did not feel like an 'Illness', like the flu or gastro. That need to find out is why t this site exists.

 

I take medication and know I have a mental illness; are you telling me I'm doing something wrong?

I take medication daily myself, so I wouldn't say that. I absolutely support your right to define your own experiences. Certainly way at the beginning it helped a lot to have a Reason, a Disagnosis to explain what I was experiencing .it was a whole lot better than just believing I was a failure at living!. In any case, 'Mental illness', even to people who use it, is a very broad term.

Years ago, a pretty smart guy who happened to be a Professor of Psychiatry told me that he thought that a lot of what we lump under one label, and which looks outwardly the same, may in fact come from several diffferent causes.

He reminded me that back in Shakspeare's day doctors had a disease they called 'Fever' and a specific treatment for it, bleeding. Now we know a fever is a symptom, and may come from many causes and the treatment will depend on the cause. Apparently the 'discoverers' of Schizophrenia refeed to 'The Schizophrenias', not 'Schizophrenia'.

He felt 'Mental Illness' was like that, that in time we may find that from every hundred patients wit h a specific label diagnosed becasue they had the same symptoms, there are two, three or bunches of causes.

So if you personally decide that aiagnosis and medication are useful, explain your situation and help you manage it, that is great; even so, feel free to look round and hear what works for other people, maybe it can make things even better for you!

 

Are you saying I have to start taking medication?

Of course not. If you personally decide, (based on understanding of the risks and benefits and the evidence), that  diagnosis and medication are useful, explain your situation and help you manage it, that is great.

But there are people who do not find a diagnosis or medication useful. And given how much we don't know about 'mental illness', the 'chemical imbalance' and physical tests for it,  people should have the right to define their situation and get the help to manage it that the definition implies.

I am told there is evidence that some of those other methods work well. I'm eager to see that evidence, aren't you?

 

Are you saying I should stop taking my medication?

First, no, i'm not saying that, as I explained above.

Secondly, and you probably know this, if you ever do decide to alter your medication or discontinue it, please do it with medical supervision. If there are parts of the medication's efffects which are good and parts bad, you doctor might be able to change or alter the regime to reduce or stop the bad bits.

Even if you have made a firm decision to stop, you still need help with the effects of the medication leaving your system. STOPPING COLD TURKEY YOURSELF IS GENERALLY A BAD IDEA; doctors and a number of people who distrust medications agree on that. The effects of quiting can be real problems unless you have help from someone with medical knowledge to montor you and maybe to offer temporary help with some of the effects.

I've tried my life with meds and without and prefer it with, despite annoying side effects; you should talk to people, read about the drugs and most importantly find a good doctor you trust. They are out there.

 

Are you saying all the thing I have experienced are real/are not real?

I have a hard enough time deciding for myself what is 'real, I would not dare try to tell you what reality is. But even when we look back, and if we see that things we experienced do not now seem to be literally true, most of the time they are True (with a capital ) as they refer to or make a metaphor for certain big issues in our lives. See one person's perspective on this

 

My loved one went off his meds and I lost him; isn't throwing doubt at psychiatry just asking for more such losses?

I am truly sorry for your loss.

I am sorry for every loss, the people I knew and the ones I only heard about.

I am sorry for the people who needed help and did not get it, and for the people who went to get help and were turned away. And I am sorry for the people I speak to in my work every day who feel that their choices and lives are being restricted, and therefore want nothing to do with the services which are trying to help them.

Now, maybe this is inevitable, maybe the way we do it in Australia is the best of all possible ways,maybe involuntary treatment has no alternative. But maybe it there are alternatives.

Maybe we can improve treatments and services, maybe we can be like the psych hospital oversea that my colleague visited where the patients responded to his question 'The doors are unlocked ; why don't you all run away?' by saying 'Why on earth should we; we need help, we need people to talk to, time to recover, freedom to choose our treatment- we're getting that. Run away? Are you nuts?'

And I agree that our mental health services are a vital resource. That is why it is so important to help make them the best they can be.

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Reasonable Questions

I work in a mental health service and have trained for years to get here; are you saying everything I learned is wrong?

Not at all. A large part of my own personal recovery was assisted by a rather clever clinical psychologist, and I have seen clinicians of every sort use their learning to benefit their patients.

But...In the 1950's , mental health professionals looked back a generation and said "Back in 1920 they thought promiscuity was a mental illness and used water baths for therapy; how stupid were they back then. Now we are enlightened!"

In the '70's mental health professionals looked back a generation and said "Back in 1950 they thought homosexuality was a mental illness; and used psychosurgery for treatment how stupid were they back then. Now we are enlightened!"

I don't know the future, but I do know this. In 25 years medical students will look back on the present day and say something like "Back in 2010 they thought .......... was a mental illness and used ....... for therapy; how stupid were they back then. Now we are enlightened!" And they'll be half wrong too.

I do not know for sure what will be in those blanks, but I do think we need to fill in those blanks as soon as possible, for the sakes of the people in services now, and listening to some of those professionals and Experienced who are dissentingand claiming evidence for their dissent is one of the ways we try to fill in those blanks.

 

I work in a mental health service and have a medical degree; what are your qualifications?

I have worked in various public area mental health services over the last 15 or so years, and have thirty years experience of mental illness, 12 years working in mental health consumer advocacy and consultation roles, another 10 in disability and disability advocacy, have done education and training in most of these roles, often training psychiatric registrars and often conducting training with other clinicians and consultant psychiatrists (Hi D. and D.).

I also have side interests in web site development and newsletter production.Oh, I also survived a B.A. with a major in Psychology.

And little of that really matters.Because it's not me that I hope people will be paying attention to here. I hope people will be taking the opportunity I am trying to provide to post and comment on other people's wisdom and peer reviewed research.

 

I'm a psychiatric registrar, I work all the hours the day has, doing my best in impossible conditions for no recognition; when will you people stop attacking psychiatrists!!??!!

I am very sorry if anything I have written seems like disrespect Doctor, I'm alive because of a good psychiatrist, I like being alive, so thanks, for his sake .

As I have said elsewhere, I and this site are not about attacking psychiatrists; I won't quite say "some of my best friends are...." but i have certainly met some very decent people who were working in that profession. And I 've met a couple who shouldn't be working in that profession, but the same is true of ANY profession.

But Doctor, until we can say that we are at the peak of human knowledge about the mind,brain and soul, there is always room for improvement in our understanding. And unless we want to say that public mental health is resourced, funded, organised, practiced and respected ideally (I don't know many current clinicians would call their system ideal)

But the things that activists and the Experienced comment on are often the same complaints I hear from workers; more time to see patients, more human or talking therapies, longer stays in hospital, better placesto stay while they are getting better.

My father was a doctor. This means that while I know nothing about the science of medicine, I do have a pretty good appreciation of what a demanding career doctors have , and of some of the sacrifices you make, for your patients and their care..

But surely we have to be able to say the system can be improved without meaning personal criticism of the people who work in the sytem, or we can't improve it

Are you saying you know better than thousands of qualified doctors?

I don't think I know better than ANYONE, my dog included (She's a real smart dog - see http://joyonfourlegs.com).

All I know is there are some pretty smart people, a number of them with medical and psychiatric degrees, and a lot more without, who tell me they have some evidence and experience that is inconsistent with some of the assumptions and beliefs behind some common clinical practices. These clincal practices have pretty invasive and negative effects on thousands of people I care about. I know sometimes you've got to hurt the patient to help her; an amputation is serious, but if it is the only way to save a life it may be justified.

But there usually not people, some skilled professionals outside the operating theatre shouting "Don't do it!"

There are such people shouting about key elements of theory in psychiatry

Doctors, if the dissenters are wrong, prove it, please so puzzled people like me can get wholeheartedly behind you. I'd love to see the evidence (and I do know a little about assessing scientific evidence, experimental methods and results for relability and validity) . Until then all I can do is what I can do - ask questions.

 

A lot of this criticism is just that ancient 1970's 'anti psychiatry' rehashed isn't it?.

I would not know for sure; in the 70's I was too busy using psychiatry to read about it.

But if any argument or evidence on this site is invalid or misinterpreted, then please don't just call it names - 'AntiPsychiatry', 'Industry of death' or whatever.

Please Show us where it is wrong - provide better evidence or analysis, prove your point by evidence and reason.

 

Without forced treatment wouldn't lot of people suffer and die?

I have met Expereinced people who credit the involvuntary system with saving their lives. I accept of course this testimony about their own lives.

But we must also consider the people who are lost to us because they are trying to do it on their own, because they have experienced things in hospital which make them desparate never to return, because they know that any clinician can put them back in hospital immediately, have them restrained and injected with medicine they do not choose.

There are hospitals and sytems where people seek treatment because it is helping them. Can't we examine the possibility that we can have a system which saves both   groups?

Some Experienced activists - not all- are willing to admit the potential temporary utility of involuntary detention in a true 'safe place' without forced treatment and with a choice of treatments, including the currently very rare taking therapies which are gathering more evidence as useful in even psyhcosis and 'Schizophrenia, whatever that is' as another professor of Psychiatry once said.

And others point to very intriguing voluntary models of care that have results as good or better than current medication based ones.

 

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Honest Questions

The police only take violent patients to hospital don't they?

Current Law in Victoria requires certain 'criteria' for involvuntary treatment. One involves 'risk to self or others'. In practice, if someone has been assessed as having a serious mental illness,  be told to take regular medication, and they do not, and their CTO can be revoked and they can be taken to hospital  often without them actually doing anything.

There are probably dozens of cases each month of people who at the moment doing no harm to themseleves or others who decide they do not want to take their medication whose Community Treatment Orders are . revoked' and the police sent to pick them up so they can be given medication , because there is a belief that they might get ill. Sometimes after the person is injected in hospital they are sent home the next day, to walk down their street with neighbours looking at them wondering what sort of criminal they are to have the police pick them up every couple of weeks.

 

This is why we need to KNOW about the lifelong chemical imbalance for sure. We need to know  if this is inevitable, or if some of the people on medication for decades might get better without it. And we need to know not only by assertion and tradition, or even stories and personal conviction and travelling shows, but based on the EVIDENCE.

 

 

You ask for counselling, therapy and support; that's what happens in psych hospitals now isn't it?

What actually happens in psych hospitals is very different from what you may think. A few years ago, an experienced psychiatrist said "we don't have a mental health system in this state; we have a sever mental illness system'. Some things have changed for the better, but the mose of care in public psychiatric services is to provide medication to redress the chemical imbalance caused by the organic brain disease.

There is no formal counselling, no group therapy exploring trauma and the unconscious, no seeking for causes in one's past.

PSychiatrists are trained never to analyse patient's delusions to discover the causes; the cause is random brain activity, so analysing it is a waste of time, according to their training. MI is seen as a  a medical problem, and the ONLY way someone is going to 'get better' is by taking a medicine,. And as it is a Chemical Imbalance or brain disease, any amount of group therapy or psychodynamic therapy is useless, isn't it, so you just don't do it


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Pointed Questions

Everyone knows mental patients have to take their medication their entire lives, like diabetes,  or they get sick; what do you say to that?

Certainly if by everybody you mean tabloid newspapers and the writers of 'Law And Order' on the TV (Good show, but often simplistic on the medication issues.).

However a lot of people including some psychiatrists are dubious about the lifelong medication/chemical imbalance thery.

The reason I started this site, and the reason for most of my education work is that I hear lots of different things from lots of different people. I hear things from psychiatrists, I hear different things from people trained in other professions, I hear and see other things again from people who have actuall expereinced this 'mental illness'. Everybody was telling me very different things which is why I am trying to give everyone a chance to see the evidence and decide.

So don't listen to what I think, browse the site and ask questions and decide for yourself.

So you want people to just go wild in the streets and hurt anyone they like; you bleeding hearts are all the same You care more about the mentally ill people than you do normal people?

Have you heard about Dr Szasz? He's a psychiatrist famous for disagreeing with medications and much orthodox psychiatry. What most people don't note though is that he is also a campaigner for the abolition of the 'Insanity Defence'.

 

It is NEVER OK to hurt someone else.

 

If someone does hurt another person, then action needs to be taken to prevent recurrence.

If people steal because they are starving, help them get food,, don't transport them t o the penal colonies. If people riot because they are politicallly disenfranchised, don't bomb them and toture them, involve them in their society and government. If people undertake a career of crime, don't throw them into jail forever and give up on them, enforce penalites which make it unprofitable and also offer them alternatives.

And if someon'e behaviour during a particular period honestly does hurt someone else, then don't stigmatise and exclude them, as we used to do, but deal with the problems behind their behaviour in the most efficient, evidenced and humane way you can.

And some smart people, including some Psychiatrists, believe there may be additional ways and that some elements of the way things are done currently may not be helping.

Shouldn't we just at least hear their arguments and make our minds up?

 

Because despite some people's certainties, 'it' really could happen to you, your childeren or loved ones. Whatever 'it' is.

 

You're just another Scientology flunky aren't you?

I'm not connected with Scientology or the 'Citizen's Committee on Whatever' that is around. I don't necessarily disagree with all their observations, but at least in this setting I'm hoping  for a conversation which includes (and hopefully creates a common understanding with)  rather than demonizes people working in the current system.H*ll, I've even been known to have moderately productive chats with the occasional psychiatrist (Between their jaunts to overseas conferences)!

 

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Hard Questions

The term 'Mental Illness' is oppressive, irrelevant and offensive; how dare you use this oppressor-language to describe me?

I understand your concern, and share it in large part. I have enough uncertainty about 'Mental Illness' to need to put the quotation marks there. And I absolutely acknowledge everyone's right to define their own experiences.However there are lots of people who use the term, and many of those people know that term best. We need to move to a perhaps mpre realistic understanding of the Experience, but we start somewhere.

 

 

Medication is poison, how dare you support it!

Though I am not personally convinced in the 'chemical imbalance ' theory which public opinion seems to support or that meds redress a specific imbalance, I believe that meds are tools which can be used appropriately or otherwise.

I have seen terrible suffering caused by forced medication. I have also spoken to people who say their lives had been saved by medication.

The toxic effects, side effects and risks of psychotropic drugs, even doubt about their effectiveness over 'placebo' should be considered by the person taking them, and balanced by the actual benefits as perceived by that person

I have myself taken a med regime which involved a significant risk of heart complications. I was aware of the risk, and eventually I changed the regime but at the time the benefits justified the risk to me.  My concerns come when the medication is forced, where the person has to take risks they do not choose themselves.

Psychiatry is well known to be an industry of death; how dare you talk about having dialogue with people working it-aren't you just a traitor to your comrades who died in that system?

I grieve for the comrades who have died, wherever they pass. I also worry about those who remain.

 

I believe, at least at the moment that I am of more use to those who remain if I try to lend my voice and poor skills to changing the system in which they find themselves.Culture and political change occur in various places, inside and outside the system to be changed.

 

Nothern Ireland and South Africa changed immense and intractable power imbalances because there were forces acting outside the system to force change, and voices within it to offer recipes for change.I believe we also need forces outside the system pressing for change, and, at least I convince myself, those inside asking the right questions. And about ' Industry of death' - see the answer above about 'antipsychiatry'.

You are just a flunky of Big Pharma aren't you?

No. And I have heard and seen things which do make me think that the pharmaceutical companies, like some other massive conglomerates are more than a bit dodgy.

 

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